Ep 223. - Iman Boost - 2 years with Sami Hamdi
Sami Hamdi first came on The Thinking Muslim two years ago on the 28 April 2023. To mark the two years we have brought together some of his choice moments that remind us of our need to fuse faith with thinking and activism.
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Sami’s scenario in Jannah
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the ultimate aim of a Muslim is not perfection in this dy It's being able to look the prophet
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Muhammad in the face on the day of judgment when you enter Jenna and say yahool Allah I
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didn't have the powers I wish I had but I still kept going And this is the scenario I imagine I hope one day inshallah that the ultimate outcome for every Muslim is
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that when we're lying on our death beds and the soul leaves our body and it may well it may well be that we die in the middle of another genocide seeing another genocide unfold We die
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through tears that we weren't able to stop it or weren't able to do anything else We may die and say yeah I'm leaving a world that is even more horrific and disgusting than the
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one I left it And you weep even though through your life you kept striving mobilizing shouting tweeting charities like you going around the country trying to mobilize you're saying 50
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different things and people won't listen to you or they're like yeah Allah I try like you lie on your deathbed and you think yeah Allah I didn't achieve anything when
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your soul leaves your body at least you won't hear you won't hear oh disgusting soul soul
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that did nothing soul that sat at home soul that told people there's no point soul that said the system was rigged soul that said oh what doing There's no point in doing that Oh
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soul that you will hear instead Oh beautiful sweet smelling soul Oh lovely soul that kept
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striving even when the odds were against you That kept speaking even when the world was against you That kept making effort after effort even when you never saw its fruits That kept going
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and telling people to keep going even though you felt that you wouldn't see the outcome in your lifetime That you kept going even through the despair even through the heartbreak Even
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when you felt there was it was futile you kept going and you kept mobilizing only because you believed that Allah was in charge of the outcome and victory was eventually coming and that alone
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was worth mobilizing and worth moving The angels will say guys there is a sweet I don't know if they say guys but the angels will say there is a sweet smelling soul that is coming up This is a
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soul that kept striving that kept mobilizing even though they never saw the outcome So let me tell you Allah is pleased with you We are as you're going up Allah is pleased with you and this is
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the scenario and I promise this is where I finish I promise I promise you know for me the most beautiful scenario I can imagine in my opinion and it might not be as beautiful scenario
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for other people but this is what I imagine it may well be we might not see liberated in our lifetime Prophetam never saw it liberated in his lifetime Let's be honest when he died he was in charge of
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Mecca Medina some parts of Yemen and some parts of the Arabian Peninsula When he died he was asked by the angels "Do you want to stay in this dunya and see the fruits of your labor or do you want to go
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back to Jenna?" Note how the prophet Muhammad did not choose to stay in the dunya He chose to go back Why Because the prophet knew the outcome belonged to Allah He was fine He said "Allah will
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sort that out I'm ready to go back to Jenna." Such was the level of trust in Allah's outcome The prophet never saw Islam in London He never saw the thinking Muslim podcast He never saw Islam in
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LA or in Dallas Sharif or in or or in Argentina But he didn't need to because he was the vehicle
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That was the honor and this is the scenar I imagine and this is where I finish I wanted to finish on this point I imagine one day if Allah accepts our efforts inshallah and if Allah you
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know rewards us with it and it's something that we pray for and and I hope one day even if we're not deserving of it Allah in his mercy will give it to us which is gentle for those I imagine one day
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Muhammad me and you and the other people in this room we sitting in the gathering of the prophet Muhammad wasallam and we arrive this I imagine I imagine we arrive and we walk and we sayalamlaykum
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and I sayum salam and is just finishing his story telling how he liberated Ala and I always imagine
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maybe a conversation between saying but when you entered the did you uphold the rights of the Jews and the Christians did you do to them what what what they did to us or did you uphold the Islamic
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way we know they are anti-semites we know they persecute the Jews but Muslims don't what did you
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do with the Jews after you enter Jerusalem would say we brought them back and gave them sanctity and comfort because every time anti-semitic Europe would persecute them whether in Spain or in Poland
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or after the Holocaust they always came to the Muslim lands would say ascend Mhm And then we sit down we say And we sit down with a Sahab and they will say "Which generation are you from?" And
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we might say "We're from a generation that didn't achieve much materially but we did the best that we could." And then another man will come after us and he'll sit or or a sister and they will
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and and they will come and sit They'll say "Which generation are you from We're from the generation that liberated Ala after his generation there." And we will be excited Envious Excited but envious
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in a good way We wish we'd been that generation But tell us how it was done Do you know what I want to hear I hope that I hear one day I hope that the person turns around to me in New Jersey
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and he says you know when I was a kid I heard the thinking Muslim podcast And I saw the efforts of
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those who came before us those who liberated the Muslim world from colonization in the 1950s 1960s
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paved the way for our semi-independence The Arab Spring that showed us that authoritarian regimes are not invincible And then those Muslims who emerged and said you could be Muslim and you
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could preserve your dean and you could succeed in life And that they changed public opinion They broke Israel's monopoly over the narrative which allowed us to speak more freely We were able to
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call it an apartheid regime Then we were able to take opportunities and I hope one day that he says to Allah and he says to him Allah but for these people we wouldn't have liberated a though
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that perhaps they didn't achieve it in their lifetimes they are the ones deserving of the credit That's the scenario I imagine inshallah that's the scenario that I hope even if I don't
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achieve but what I do know is we have to keep moving and that's why if you can't fly run if you can't run walk if you can't walk crawl but I promise you Blink buckled because of public
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opinion when the um roared and raised the voices of the Palestinians Netanyahu buckled Bin Salman buckled Bin buckled Erdogan buckled All of these people they buckled not because they wanted to do
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anything for the for but because public opinion forced them to adopt positions that they did not want to adopt When a Muslim tells me that they feel tired I can't understand it because
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how can you see Blinken go from no ceasefire to sustainable ceasefire How can you see that shift that's taking place and know it's because of you and feel fatigued Instead we are winning
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the battle after battle after battle It's hard It's turbulent But we have to keep going And now we have the chance even in these elections to make an impact and even the next four or five
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years to plug those gaps in the industries where we found ourselves exposed And Allahh is the one who knows the outcome All I know is there's a battle in front of us Let's fight this battle then
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deal with the outcomes afterwards And may Allah give us every success in this battle inshallah
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brings us together today We wish you a pleasantar and an evening filled with joy and happiness
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Many people say "What if Trump comes What if this happens It's all whatifs But Allah is in control of the whatifs I have a battle in front of me The battle in front of me is I saw
Focus on the battle before you
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20,000 Palestinians genocide and I saw I've seen genocide live streamed in my lifetime I've seen
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ethnic cleansing live stream in my lifetime I saw a world that told me that human rights mattered I
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saw them throw it out the window be just because the Palestinians don't look the way they do I saw
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the world throw out international law that it implemented on everybody but itself I saw the
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western world go and throw out the laws and the cases just to facilitate that ethnic cleansing
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and genocide I saw the Western world that preached freedom impose restrictions and repression because
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it was terrified that freedom would result in sympathy for the Palestinians I saw the greatest hypocrisy of the century right before my eyes And I'm supposed to sit down and say whatifs
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There's a battle before me that we have to fight It's the war of narratives Don't tell me what if
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I see a man who committed genocide I see a man who facilitated it I see a man who supported
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the ethnic cleansing And somebody is telling me "What if somebody is worse Am I supposed to let
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him continue with his second term after massacring the people like this What justice on earth what
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interest self-interest on earth would lead anybody to consider that there is a just scenario that
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allows him to win that second term How can it even be a discussion And that's why when
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people say to me look beyond what if the story of between MS and is that when knows the unknown of
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Allah subhana wa ta'ala note that MS is told by Allah that knows unknown knowledge that doesn't
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stop MS from rebuking because MS sees only what's in front of him and does his duty based on what's
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in front of him Allah will deal with the unknown When goes and he puts the hole in the boat of the
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people who of the poor people and MS says why are you doing this You're doing an injustice MS is
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doing it based on what he sees I've seen genocide I will do what Musam did because that was relation
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between him and Allah I'll do what MS did and I will stand against the genocide job because I tell you what the outcome every Muslim should seek It's not perfection in this duny for Allah would
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not be if the aim was perfection Allah would not be the forgiving if would not have named himself
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the forgiving although an excess apprentice if it was perfect The greatest outcome a Muslim can have and the honor that has given us the honor has given us is given us the chance all of us the
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chance to be vehicles to bring about this change vehicles to make a difference Yeah Muhammad Jalan
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when I see that public opinion has had such a sweeping impact on the position of nation states I am proud and honored that you brought me to thinking Muslim podcast and that I believe even
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if it's just an atom I believe we contributed to that I believe that when I see that public opinion
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is making the Democrats panic and I know it wasn't bin Salman who in the through has launched his dog
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fashion show and brought Shakira and is planning to bring Iselia and all these other sports I know it wasn't him who brought the change I know it was the ordinary Muslim who mobilized When people talk
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about fatigue I don't understand it because you're seeing the change that's being made We see ourselves to have to be those the froth on the ocean you know those people who don't really have
Allah is in control
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uh the sway and the charisma and the strength of um uh of um of those who came before us And maybe
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we imagine that that's gone Those days are over We're never going to get a Salah again We're never
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going to get a Khaliv W again let alone or whoever in our in our Islamic history if that period's
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over How do you contend with that type of notion Who would you like and maybe a more more direct
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question who do you see from amongst us that you would like to be in Jenna with um inshallah tal
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if we if we reach that lofty position One of the things that is fascinating about the way
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that hadith is used is that that hadith is often used to denote the weakness of the um but when you
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look at that hadith that hadith is less about the power of the um and more about the state of the um
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explain the difference between the two The prophet did not say the um would have no power He would
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say that the um would be like the frost of the sea leaving room for an interpretation that the
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um would have power but not use that power that it would be incapable of using that power And the reason why I say this is that when you look at the trajectory of the um the first thing
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is you have to reconcile that hadith with the ayat of the Quran that Allah subhana wa ta'ala is always in control of all affairs and that Allah gives victory to whom he wills Allah did not say
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he gives victories to certain generations Allah says he gives victory to whom he wills implying it's an eternal situation It's an eternal point The second point is people often read that hadith
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ignoring the recent historical victories of the ummah By that I mean that the way the um was liberated from colonization 60 years ago where we talk about the Arab Spring even we talk about the
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period between the 1960s and 1990s The US was unable to establish a single military base in
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the region because despite these rulers that many like to paint very simplistically were puppets of
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the west which they weren't One of the things that is worth noting is this A lot of the crisis in the Muslim countries we have to be fair during that period were less about western intervention and
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more about fitna between ourselves in the same way that we saw and fight between themselves Two very
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good men of course being much better man But the point is that we saw even good men fight between
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themselves We saw even Sahaba go fitna between themselves There's nothing wrong in saying that during that period we also saw fitna between them The reason why I say this is during that period
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the Americans were desperate for a for a military base but no one would give them one until Saddam
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invaded Kuwait and Kuwait invited them in That's why Saddam at the time the people the reason people say it was a huge mistake irrespective of what Kuwait was doing was that he gave the door
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that allowed the Americans to finally get into the region and finally establish their military base The reason why I say this is that when you look at the way the um has progressed when you
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look at it from the French perspective they colonized the Muslim world for 132 years in Algeria Do you think they ever expected that the heroes of the new French generation would be the
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Muslim Paul Pogba Muslim Angolo Kante Muslim Karim Benzema Did you ever envision that the Americans
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when they brutalized the Muslims abroad expected that they would ever have an election where those very Muslims in the belly of the beast would now potentially have the deciding vote in an upcoming
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election Did you ever envision that the Britain which used to rule an empire where the sun never sets where Winston Churchill says the dog in the major doesn't have any right to the Palestinian
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land Do you think Churchill ever envisage a scenario where Sami Hi and Muhammad Jal now have the power in the upcoming UK elections to deliver a bodyblow to the Labour and the Conservatives if
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only they can rally the Muslim vote and rally them behind a particular candidate Do you think that these powers always existed They are relatively new and the reason that they are new The reason
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that they exist today is because of the efforts of the ummah in moving forward and mobilizing And that's why the people of Jenna are not the people of those you see on the podiums who celebrate at
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the end of the victory The people of the Jenna are those who strove and those who mobilize even though they never saw the outcome Musb the first diplomat of Islam who went to Medina
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to pave the way for the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam to come never saw fatka He never saw the liberation of Mecca He never saw the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam in a position of
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according to modern standards strength He saw the prophet when he left the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam he left him in a state where the prophet was according to political analyst weak
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You can imagine he probably died saying ya Allah please protect the prophet for I'm going back to you while he's still in this particular situation Does that mean failed Do you think he's sitting in
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Jenna going a I wish I'd stayed until fat instead of coming here to Jenna The reality is when you
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when I went to in the Turkish elections when Erdogan everybody thought he would lose So part of
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me felt that as a result of Erdogan's pragmatism he's undermining the Muslim movement in Turkey and
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that the Muslim movement needs to badly reflect that this pragmatism Erdogan demonstrate cannot be the final solution There must be another way forward and there must be a way to you
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know find you know recorrect the trajectory A Turkish imam said to me "Sami I agree with all
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of your criticism of Erdogan All of it." I said "So maybe maybe maybe he should lose the election
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so the Muslim movement can." He said "Erdogan is the product of my grandfather who was executed for
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teaching Quran Of my grandfather who was abused for wearing the hijab of our forefathers who kept
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Islam alive when Ataturk was desperately trying to chain it We are the ones who suffered in order to finally bring back Erdogan He's not the final product He's not the perfect product but he's
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the result of our efforts where we are breaking the system A system that was designed against us We broke it and we're making it now work for us Yeah He said we will fix Erdogan not Europe and
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America Mhm We will fix because we believe that he is the product of our jihad because when we
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could have laid down and allowed to have his way we said no we will never allow Turkey to become
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a land where they don't say rool when I look at the Bosnians and I go to these Bosnians you know
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the in the 1940s in 1938 they had this Muslim question a big communist thinker he said we
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have an issue of this Muslim identity they don't identify on ethnicities So their solution was not to say let's understand Islam Their solution was to execute students who led Muslim associations
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and imprisoned the others That 22 23 year old executed because his only crime was and he died
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proud He refused to budge on it And the others he they they died When they died communism was rife
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and the Muslims were being persecuted You cannot say those These are the people of Jenna And the Bosnians continued even after the Serbian genocide Today Islam roars in Bosnia in the heart of Europe
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Mitro is reported as telling Bill Clinton "I will not accept Islam Islamic State in the heart of
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Europe." Today regardless of what wanted Bosnia is a Muslim majority state in the heart of Europe Not
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because they're being forced to accept Islam but because despite genocide and persecution and and
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bullying and despite all of these things that were committed against them they they could have said "We no longer believe accept us." They refused to let go ofahillah and we're not just talking about
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hijabis I was on a train going from Mustar to SVO to try to tell cuz sometimes we take the groups from SO to MA and the bus journey is a bit tiring I thought let's try the train There's a lady
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sitting next to me Uh she's maybe 65 years old 60 years old wearing a tight you know like shorts and
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wearing a tight top and her hair is a bit short I'm talking to an Australian Bosian about Bosnian and I said you know but I want to understand where the hatred comes that led to that genocide
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And she looks at me with her eyes face fire in her eyes She goes "It's because we're Muslim and we never gave up Allah and his prophet." And I had goosebumps when she said it to me like
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that This is an um when you when you learn about it when you see it these in my opinion these are the people of Jenna Be people who when the world turns against them when the odds turn against them
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when the world tells them give updool and we will stop persecuting you give up and you the
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French when they were in Algeria they said we want here as a civilizing mission Islam is backwards just leave Islam and be French and we will give you equal rights They used to celebrate when
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the Algerians would speak French or the like The reason the French were horrified is because after 132 years of the civilizing mission the Algerians still roared on independence of 1962 Yeah Muhammad
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Alik oh Muhammad Prophet Muhammad congratulations Algeria has been returned to you And the French
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said what is it about this dean that means that we can commit genocide ethnic cleansing persecution
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ban their religion ban their language and the like and they refuse to give up on that's why
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the people of Jenna you mentioned the problem I feel with this um is we only believe people of
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Jenna are people like not those behind the scenes that you never heard of that gave their lives for
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their struggle because they weren't interested in the applause they weren't interested in the fame they were a people who believe that Allah knows their deeds Allah knows what they're doing and
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they believe because they loved Allah as if they could see him they died in with nobody knowing
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who they were but they paved the way for me and you to take liberties to then assess whether what
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they did was right or wrong while they sit in Jenna while we're here still desperate unsure even if we will go to Jenna or not and that's the point when you say the people of Jenna I no
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longer believe the people of Jenna are the grand individuals or be I believe with Jenna I believe
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you know when you meet these people and this is what I always tell people sometimes and I promise I finish on this note I think the greatest crime that colonization did to the Muslim ummah was not
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just the physical They electrocuted my grandfather They chopped off the breast of his my my great
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uncle was 18 19 when he was killed by the French One day the French soldiers they saw one of his cousins She was pregnant So the French they mocked They said "Let's find out the gender of the baby."
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What they meant and they took out the knife and they were ready to slit her belly open to bring That's what the French used to do in Algeria He saw and he panicked So he picked up a rifle and he
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shot the four French soldiers They came into his house and riddled him with bullets afterwards The point is the French did horrific things in Algeria But still even so when I look at what these these
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people did the people who refused to give Islam the ordinary people that's why when Heracleas says who are the people who follow this prophet they said it's the weakest of society or those
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we consider the lowest and Heracles said this was the way of the prophets before And that's why I think if you're an um that looks down on that but only looks up you're already looking in the wrong
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direction You're already looking in the wrong way The prophet wasallam could have bought He could have taken the money and he could have he chose not to because he knew the dean is not delivered
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by money The dean is not delivered by this sort of influence The dean is delivered by the hearts
Islam makes us great
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of the ordinary people by who dies before fat She dies in before they even go to Medina after
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just turning to Islam by Hamza who dies in having never seen the fat All the other Sahabah who died
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beforehand Do you see all of these None of these Sahabah failed They were pillars that we stood on And that's why I come back to this conclusion when I said be the vehicle I I believe this um will
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have glory when the Muslim believes that there is just as much honor in dying the way did as being
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this um will thrive when it realizes that who died before fatka has just as much glory as the sahaba
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who entered Makkah itself with the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam When we reorient what it means to be great in Islam when we finally realize that it's not Muslims that make
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Islam great it's not that made Islam great It's Islam that made Salah be great When we realize
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that it's not us that makes Allah great it's not us doing the favor for Allah It's Allah who makes us great by allowing us to be vehicles and then rewarding us even if we don't get to the outcome
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rewarding the Quran teacher who gets executed for teaching Quran but rewards him because he kept the message of Islam alive teaching a generation that produced Erdogan Erdogan learned from this
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generation and so did the others and remember and I promise this is where I finish there is a book on on on Algeria that I bought in order to try to see why the French don't apologize
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for colonization I wanted just to see from their perspective I said you know what forget complaining let me see the book he identifies two turning points the one is the massacre that we
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talked about in previous podcast But the second he identifies is 1920s when Abdin Badis and the
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Council of Islamic Scholars revitalized the Algerian identity with Islam because 30 years
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later the generation that entered the FLN that would liberate Algeria were fluent in Islam fluent
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in Arabic fluent in their identity after being battered by the French those scholars revived
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it They revived the dean That's why when people talk to Quran it's fundamental It's so important
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and that's the point I want to make to answer your question short terms You ask me who are the people you want to be with in Jenna I've come to realize that the people of Jenna are not the ones on the
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podiums or be may Allah give them Jenna The people of Jenna are those who never wanted the podiums and were ready to sacrifice their lives for Allah so I might have the liberty to shout in front of a
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microphone and tell people please punish genocide Joe They plan and we plan They plan and the
The power of ordinary people
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community plans Democrats plan and we plan Biden planned and we plan And the reality is they're not as strong as we think they are And that's why I think that moving forward it's not about what
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do we do differently It's about how do we sustain what has been done How do we sustain the messaging
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on Palestine How do we normalize language How now we normalize genocide That was impossible before
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Do you remember not too long ago we couldn't even say it was an apartheid regime It was deemed to be something unacademic Now everybody is calling it an apartheid regime But that's because of
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the efforts of ordinary people And this is why Heraclus when he said to Abu Sufyan who are the
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people who are supporting this man called Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam in Mecca who
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are the ones supporting him in a manner that has now troubled you you and troubled you leaders in
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Mecca when Qur has been the superior tribe Abu Sufyan says it is the lowest of society Heracius
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says "Yeah Abu Sufyan if it is the lowest of your society who are the ones who are relentless
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relentless in the way that they punish genocide relentless in the way they take a stand that when
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Trump comes with his fascist policies they hold firm that when Democrats tell them that we're going to abandon you to Trump they say we'll hold firm and we have millions of non-Muslim
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Americans with us too." These Heracius said if it is these people then yeah Abu Sufi today you
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may hold Mecca but I promise you this man is on the prophetic way and he will take Mecca from you and he'll even take Rome from me too and this is the message to the community now as well if you
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continue as you are the way that you punish Biden not only will you smash Zionist influence in the US which is already now under threat because now Zionists are becoming so public in the way that
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they are lashing out that even Matt Walsh of Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire is coming out and saying we
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should cut all aid to the Israelis Tucker Carlson saying we should cut aid to the Israelis Candace Owens every single day is doing a video saying we need to stop supporting the Israelis They've gone
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cuckoo They've gone they've gone wild The reality is that all of these changes is not because of bin Salman bin Zed and these others It's because of the ordinary person who has a power that is
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so magnificent because their lord is magnificent and the Zionists What they want more than anything
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else is for this community to shut up for this community to go home for this community to give
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up For this community to stop engaging for IKNA relief to stop going and helping the Americans when Trump wants to abandon some of them for the for for Betal Mel to stop donating to those
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communities that might be struggling with Medicare Medicare because they don't want the Americans to see the truth of what's happening and to see that actually Muslims are far closer to them in
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justice and in mercy than these Zionists who are committing ethnic cleansing I would like to return back to that idea of of studying Vira So just give me give me some pointers What should I be
Studying the Seerah
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uh looking at when it when it comes to rereading Vas from a political perspective Uh give me some
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u some inspiration inshallah to on a daily basis to uh to study vis and to glean from
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it those political examples that you say every Muslim should be getting from the life of the
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prophetatam I think that Allah subhana wa ta'ala when he revealed a lot of the ayat when the
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prophet first receives the revelation he doesn't receive the full Quran he receives only certain verses and I always wondered why Allah did not give him the full Quran in one go and
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the theory of some scholars is that the reason Allah didn't give him given give it to him all in one go is had he given it to him in one go he would not have understood all of the
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ayat he had to go through certain events in his life to fully grasp what those ayat are and that's why some ayat they came down in certain events for after when he was
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debating what to do with those who disobeyed him on the hill whether to punish them or not Allah said if you are hard and harsh to them oh Muhammad everybody else will leave
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you this is a powerful one so pardon them and ask forgiveness for them so ask me to forgive
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ask Allah to forgive them and consult them in their affairs don't do that whole forgive and
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never forget consult them in the affairs and I think when Sahaba saw that he was able to bring the ranks together it was a very political area very political move and he had to go through in
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order to understand that in terms of how he moves forward but I think if I had to focus on anything in this Ramadan for anybody who's in the western who's studying the I would do a very deep dive
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into the first 13 years of the life of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam in particular
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you know these days we have these VR machines where you put into on your eyes and it teleports you to a different world or the like Don't read the s just as if you're reading a book
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about somebody else at every interaction So the prophetam receives the picture yourself that you
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see a man running down from the hill goes to his wife comes out and says an angel has come down and
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said there is no god but he but he doesn't give you the full Quran he only gives you a little piece of it Then he goes in the middle of the city in the Kaa and he starts giving da ask yourself
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are you capable of that Are you capable of going in the middle of the of your town and telling them
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I want to call you to one god and Muhammad is the messenger Then I want you to imagine
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people laughing at you the way in the s tells you they laughed and scoffed at the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam Can you tolerate that Can can you put up with that Can you put up with
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the gloating of those you punish for genocide telling you how watch how he comes after you I'm safe because of privilege but watch how they come after you Watch how they come after your charities
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Watch how they come after your institutions You wanted to punish us We'll see what put yourself
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in the position of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam where they start mocking him and laughing at him and the like As you go through you'll come across the likes of Sume Bear in
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mind you're only six seven eight nine pages in after you've passed the background context of Abdutib and and and and his father Abdah and the story of the year of the elephant and the like go
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to it is found to be giving that where they pull out they tell her give up your religion give up
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your religion give up your religion you know how people are saying it could be worse under Donald Trump what if you're one of the victims of that in in in Palestine for example where they say
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give it up give it up imagine yourself in it the s is not a fairy tale the s gives you different and it becomes scary now suddenly because you know when you say it's a time we're
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supposed to reconnect with Allahhana wa ta'ala the the image people have is is a fairy kumba moment It's I sit there I meditate I have zen and I feel spiritually high No no Ramadan is not that
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Ramadan is going back to Allah subhana wa ta'ala and understanding the contract with Allah subhana
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wa ta'ala And to understand it you look at the chosen people that he had around the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam You get to and she's a poor woman She's not the elite She doesn't
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have money to buy Qur She doesn't have a tribe to protect her She's the ones that some people say you know they're the ones who are going to be on the front line suffering while you sit in your you
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know like Abu Bakr Sadik or these others you know who have some sort of tribal protection Not even the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam could protect Abu Jandal and these other people
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as well is killed And you say to yourself and this is what I said to myself You say to yourself
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could I do that for Allah Could I do that For Allah is that me And then you hesitate cuz the
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answer immediately I'll be honest with you is no that's not me You go to the next page and you keep continuing as you read just the first 13 years Allah prophetam is rampaging through Mecca and
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anybody who talks about Islam he is aggressive to them so he and his companions they're aggressive
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to the Muslims you don't have the muscles to go against you don't have the power you don't have
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the weight tell me Jalal stop on that pageal what would you do would you stay in your home when they
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tell you jal we need some manpower because would you be And I'm going to do I'm going to pray here
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You guys go go instead The prophetam has told us to go to the Kaa and announce it Are you guys mad
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They're going to stone us They're going to hit us Abuahab is going to bring Abujah They're going to bring everybody against us Would you go if somebody asked you similar If you read it in a
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kumbaya zen moment you'll be like yeah you know in a bit of a high But when you ask yourself and you
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see it let's go and punish genocide Let's go and stand for what's right Let's go out and protest
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Let's go out and do the parallel of today Let's go You suddenly realize there must be a smarter
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way to do this That's what when you apply to it smarter way You know when you know when people say you know if I was in bad you know I would not even in yet we're already on on just these
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examples over here and already we're hesitating we're not sure where we are The prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam for 13 years tells you he's the prophet Yeah All you see is him
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being humiliated by organ organs being thrown on top of him Thorns being put in his path by you
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know his wife is putting the thorns in his path You see for example they are laughing at him on the street and he keeps going to them Every h the tribes they come 25 tribes dignitaries they come
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and he goes to each dignitary telling them I am the prophet and Allah is one and do justice and
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do whatever and they say to him he does it When is he going to give up 12 months and people are saying have Democrats learned their lesson 12 months everybody's saying another four years of
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struggle 13 years he's telling you go and struggle and he doesn't seem to be making any tangible gain
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materially in terms of ending in terms of going around and establishing a city establishing an
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army you're 12 months hesitating and you claim you would last 13 years with the life of the
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prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam you don't have to are you if you do it properly you
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won't finish the first 13 years of the s of the prophetam because you'll get to the point where Muhammad sallallah Wasallam says to his companions that some of you are struggling and I know it true
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who wants to go to with because he sends their weaker ones the ones who are would you have said
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like who had the chance to go home you know when everybody says I want to go home I want to go to
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tis I want to go to Makkah I want to go to Wakanda I want to go to has the chance to go home with as
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part of a delegation says to him "No man there is wronged You will be safe there." Says "My place is
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here yasool Allah My place is here." Says "If the prophet had not sent me I would have stayed with
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him I don't want to abandon you yasool Allah." Would you have been one of those who says "Yeah I I'll go I I'll go I'll go to Abis." Or would you have said "I'll stay with." Are you Which
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category are you I'm not saying there's categories between them I'm saying would you have said let me stay in the belly of the beast or let me make and get out of here when you get to the part he's got
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chains in front of you he's about to chain you can you keep the eloquence of because your argument is
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not I can bring you businessmen I can bring you investment I can do a vision 20 I can do a vision uh uh 800 AD for you I can do I can bring a shakira I can bring Jennifer Lopez I can bring
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whatever for you I will bring good economy for you I would be beneficial in businesses Or would you
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be willing to say to Nashes "We worship gods of wood and stone elements of our own manufacturer
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The rich have neglected the poor They've neglected Philadelphia They've neglected Halsden They've
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neglected Bradford They've neglected." And the act by which be or or or mass or baraka charity or
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or or HCI or or these others or relief the act by which they go to these communities and lift their
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fellow brothers up is described by them as like a kumbaya like a you know upsetting social order Why
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are you a nice well and suited guy wasting your time with these people over here that Trump has taken away their their rights to free school meals and Medicare Why do you waste your time with them
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Can you say that to you think I have to give them something tangible says come on we're the economic
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partner this etc and they don't even believe Jesus is the son and holds his ground you know in those debates when you're with the Christians or the he holds his ground you talk about women you say
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we feed them close them discard them what about the womb that bore you says why are your 300 gods
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tongue tied while is one god is eloquent when you read it you feel spiritually imagine yourself as
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jaffur It's terrifying It's frightening You sit in those crowd of those who are pro-Zionist of those
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who are pro-Quresh and you're trying to tell them that Palestine that that the the prophet Muhammad
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sallallahu alaihi wasallam that his cause is just his cause is right and Sky New Ab Sky New shouts
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at you from the back and tells you do you condemn do Pers Morgan sorry do you condemn do you condemn it's terrifying that's why many people don't go to these different places bear in mind all of this
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you've spent 12 days of Ramadan 13 days of Ramadan and already you think you're feeling a spiritual
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You suddenly realize Allah I don't think I'm as great of a Muslim as I thought I was Goes
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barges in on his sister This is first 13 years His sister is reading the Quran with her husband Omar
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Kab walks in sees him reading the Quran beats up his sister says I will disown anybody who
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has this Would you have said ah this beating isn't worth it or would you have said listen we will never give up this religion never give up this dean Bear in mind it's not for example
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that she has money to lose or the like She's doing it all for Allahhana wa tala Would you do it He says to you know how we say this guy doesn't deserve my dawa has just hit his sister
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over Quran and hit his brother-in-law and his brother-in-law and sister say at least read it At least watch the Tik Tok video At least see the post At least see it reads it
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reasons and says only Allah could have delivered this He goes and he gives uh to be to prophet Muhammad and you know what he does next in Jalal he goes to the middle of the caba goes
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to the middle of he says I become Muslim and what could you go through each one could you z sold as
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a slave ends up with the prophet Muhammad wasallam his father travels the length and breadth of Arabia to find his son when he gets there z says to says to him I want to stay with
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the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam I don't want to go home with you all first 13 years they boycott you dies during in the boycott Abu Talib dies as well You've lost your protection
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Sully there are no Democrats to protect you Hashem Abu Talib being close to Democrat No Democrats to
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protect you and the Republicans hate you Abu Sufyan and these guys they're coming after you
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Would you have said to the Prophet Muhammad yasool Allah do you have to give dawa every day Can't
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we just do it in our homes and tell Sufyan that we're like like why Like they're not even going to
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reflect on it They're not going to appreciate it Maybe we should focus on the da in our homes Why do you have to go to the cabba and keep talking about it Would you have been one of those Would
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you have been one of those who told him be rational be wise politically yool Why do you
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have to go and Allah in the Quran by the way says we know Muhammad that you might be thinking of
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omitting some of what we have revealed but know that it is to us that you return Allah doesn't
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even say to the prophetam you you can hide it He says go and tell them bluntly Would you have said yahasool Allah to be honest I'm sick and tired of the the persecution and stuff and to
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be honest you're not giving me a strategy or road plan it's been 13 years Allah 13 years
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of the same thing new content yasool Allah where is it yasool Allah then they don't even take you
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seriously yasool Allah they won't even sit with you they laugh at you and you keep telling us
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Allah will give Allah will give Allah 13 years not 12 months not 12 months yet not 15 months
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months not two years not three years 13 years Allah when is it When Khazar comes suddenly
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they're shocked And the Abbas tells him you guys you do know if you support the Prophet Muhammad
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you know all of Arabia is going to come against you You know if you go and punish the Democrats Zionist and Trump will come after you You know if you stand with him for what's right you know he's
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got no army with him Yeah You you know the other side has all the the the media on their side You
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you you know that they're too they're strong right Are you guys mad going to lend your support to the
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palace to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam Do you know what could happen in the next four years if you give him your support Oh they turn around they say yes we know what were given
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to the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam Can you honestly hand on heart when Abbas paints
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you the picture of the biggest the most powerful tribe and all these other tribes coming against
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you just because a man came from a cave and told you that there is one God and I am his messenger
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and here is my miracles the proof that is a book not a white light like Mus Alisam showing it in the hand not a staff being thrown and is becoming a snake he tells you I have a book revelation from
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Allahhana wa ta'ala and he says based on this I want you to support me would you can you honestly
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handle on say you would have without hesitation said toam I'm ready to go against the whole world
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when you struggle even to punish a genocide when you won't even suffer anywhere like the
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and when Abbas says it just so my dad doesn't shout at me again like he did last time when I told the story in Michigan when I told the story about how they said yes we're ready for it and
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I told it before but I love telling it because it's a wonderful rebuke for me where you think you know something but you don't and it's very recent as well people always think wisdom you
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get it and you live with the rest of your life no it comes constantly the more you interact with people He says to me "Sammy," I said "Yes Baba." He said "I heard you tell the story about
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the bea." I said "Yes Baba." He said "Uh but you didn't tell the story properly." The point of the story you didn't tell it I said "Baba what did I miss?" He said "Ab tells him." I said "Yes
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Baba." I said "Abb tells him the struggle." He goes "Yes I get it Struggle struggle struggle struggle struggle." But that's not the point of the story I said "Then what's the point of the
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story Baba?" He says "What do they ask after the interaction with Abbas?" And I went "Baba I forgot
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I had forgotten I'm reading this here I forgot that particular part I was focused on the struggle part I forgot the other part because I spend my time fouryear plan first year recognition second
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year reflection third year democrats come and and take your votes or maybe you go third party labor
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counselor punish Muslim vote Australia Albanesei hung parliament etc You spend your time doing
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the political scenarios He said I see you doing all these political scenarios etc But I fear in
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your analysis of it you are forgetting one most important aspect What did they askam after they
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spoke with Abbas I said Baba I forgot He says my son they asked him what's our reward What's
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our reward if I put up with a struggle because I stood for what's right What's my reward if I do
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what's right and I bear the storm that comes with it What's my reward if I finally say enough is
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enough of lesser of two evils What's my reward if I say the world cannot continue as it is Even if I
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have limited power I'm going to hold my ground and I'm going to do what's right Sammy if he had said to them that your reward is when you win every khalifa will come only from you Would any Muslim
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have objected I said "No." If he had said to them that 50% of the zakat collected will only be given
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to the Americans because they punish genocide that they will only be given to the descendants of the Ansar would Muslims have objected No probably not maybe to Americans but no he said so what
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did he say to them what what's their reward you know saying what's going to happen in four years what happens when do what's our reward if we do what's right what's our reward if we take a
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stand what's our reward if we do what is principle what's our reward if we punish genocide tomorrow
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and fight fascism today what's our reward if we are the moral consciousness what's our reward if
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we're ready to be like if we're ready to be like if we're ready to be like Hamza if we're ready to
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be like jaff If we're ready to be like those who don't see the conquering of Mecca what's
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our reward He says your reward is al you're not even halfway through the book and you're already
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at the key question If in that moment when he has nothing sallallahu alaihi wasallam materially when
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you get to that point and inshallah you get to it maybe on the 16th or the 17th night of Ramadan if you do it properly you'll get to that point on the 20th or 21st night of Ramadan When you get
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to that point bad hasn't come yet You don't know bad is coming You don't know You don't know This
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man has just given you a promise He hasn't shown you what the next four years are going to be like He's given you a promise And ask yourself in that moment would I have been somebody who would say
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to you are worth it Allah I haven't seen you rich I don't see an army with you to be honest
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All I see is doing horrible things to you and you don't have power to react back to them Allah I haven't seen you manifest power like the way the Israelis manifest power on the on the
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Palestinians I haven't seen you manifest power the way America manifest power over Europe I haven't
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seen you manifest power the way China manifest power over Tibet or these other places I haven't
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seen you manifest that power You promised me you have promised me that if I somehow stick with you
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against Rome against America against China against Persia against the the evil of these states and if
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I go to these states instead and tell their people to worship one God and to strive so that these
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people can see the good so that these countries can become good If I strive to do this based on
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your promise of Jenna you're saying "I'm going to get Jenna." He says "Yes you'll get Jenna." Would
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that be sufficient for you to say let's go and and I don't know if many Muslims can say yes to that
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The reason why I say that is the things that we fear in everyday life which are legitimate fears
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We don't fear them in terms of hesitation We get paralyzed by that fear Oh why did we do this Why
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did we punish Why did we stand We are paralyzed by even though it was the right thing to do
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And that's why I argue that if you're going to read any book during Ramadan read the Quran as
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you do read the s and read the ayat that are associated with the events in the s that you have and wall you will look at the prophet Muhammad wasallam very differently You will
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see him not as a soft human being who was weak and was sahaba made him strong You will see him
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as audacious as formidable as powerful and brave and embodying all the traits that you thought you
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had But when you apply yourself to those scenarios you realize you don't actually have those traits at all When you said Sammy last year I didn't focus on s because I was focused on the elections
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Do you know what a damn indictment that is To go and pursue that which is right is the to go and
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talk to people on the streets and tell them that is to go out and make da and debate and discuss
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with people and tell them let's do what's right come let's go to call on them this is s but you
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didn't realize it because s is not what you read in the book the reason I said put yourself in
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that position is can you strike a parallel between what happened to the prophet Muhammad and between what's happening in your life when you see red pill talking about the way Muslims should treat
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Look at the section when the prophet wasallam gets the and comes down What does the say He puts his
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head in the lap of and he says to her "Cover me cover me cover me." If they did not know
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that that man was the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam these red pill guys and you told them about such a situation may Allah forgive us from any conclusion that these people would reach
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He went and showed love and kindness to his wife where we are starting to preach hardness rights
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and obligations Khadijah had covered him and said to him "Not why are you as a man putting your head
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in my lap." She said "Yeah Muhammad Allah will never humiliate you." She put she reassured him
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"Yeah Muhammad Allah will never humiliate you." She didn't emasculate her husband in
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any way She didn't say "Why is he coming to me so terrified Why is he coming to me so fearful?" The
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our mother says to our beloved prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam she says to him Allah
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will never humiliate you because you're a good man and whatever mission he has given to you I am with
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you the whole way which is why he never married a second wife when Khadijah was alive and it's why
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even in her death said that wallah I was jealous of a dead woman because he's that's first 13 years
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look at your marriage and look at your wife or look at your husband if they came home in the same circumstances fearful about something that they didn't fully understand or comprehend would
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you say man up or would you hold them the way a marriage is supposed to be read it and apply it
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to your daily when is being abused by when he's being abused Abu Bakr goes runs he runs to try
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and save him do we look and say somebody else will get involved or do we get involved in our society you know the brother or sister they live just down the You know they're in dire straits You
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know this one has domestic violence You know this one has an issue over there The prophet Muhammad sends Abu Bakr to try and reconcile to try and keep the peace over there to try and help them
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Are you somebody who gets up and says I need to get out quickly I'm going to go These are just the first 13 years Don't think just about the jihad about because you think somehow that makes
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you feel strong Did you know Abdah was asked by the people of Kufa "We wish we were with you on
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the day of bad." He said "Why We were fighting our family Why would you wish for such a fitna
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Why would you wish?" We talk about it with glory because we know Allah delivered the victory but we
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don't consider what it was like to be the soldier there to see your father on the other side to see
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your brother on the other side to see how Allah tested them with that which was dearest to them
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Do not be cocky and arrogant and assume you would be because that just shows you haven't understood
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the when you read it To answer your question quite bluntly the s is a terrifying book If you're going into Ramadan expecting kumbaya don't read it For wall when you read the of the prophet
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Muhammad you realize how short we're falling And only the promise of Allah in the Quran gives you
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the reassurance that there's still time to get up There's still time to make it better There's still time to call your mother who you haven't spoken to for 6 months and tell a mom
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"I'm sorry I shouldn't have gone more than two days without speaking to you." There's still time to get up and invite your brother around for a meal or the like just to reconcile between him
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There's still time to go and see your in-laws and reconcile between them There's still time to go out and give charity There's still time to go out and help your neighbor There's still time to do
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There's still time to boycott There's still time to protest There's still time to Tik Tok There's still time for social media There's still time to make Netanyahu go and desperately plead for Tik
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Tok to be banned There's still time to fund those student encampments and give them biryani so that they stay there so that they can push back against the new university rules There's still time to
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go and think of a third way that we don't have to accept the status quo for what it is We can change it the way the prophet Muhammad changed all of Arabia They were a tribal society He changed it
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in one generation It doesn't need to be two or three generations We don't there's still time Every time you have breath tomorrow is a new day where you can do something When you read the seal
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of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam you realize as Hamza said he said that when I go
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hunting in the desert I realize God is not kept in a house The reality is that when you go out you
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see Allahh is everywhere When you are contributing to the Muslim vote when you are traveling from Canada to go and study when you're coming and doing the camera and I finish on this particular
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point do not underestimate the value that you give Finally Sammy uh you've talked about the ineptitude of the Muslim rulers their failure to use their leverage to deal with this crisis Um we
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believe you and I believe and I think the majority of Muslims actually believe that things are going to change There is a a better Muslim world that may emerge I don't know when that's going to
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emerge whether I was sick whether my children will see it or their children were sick But I believe that the Muslim world is going to become a better place Describe that world for me When you
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look at the s of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam When you read it as a political
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book you begin to dive more into the statements that are made during the crisis of what happened
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And when you read them you start to realize that a lot of the crises and the responses are human
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Growing up you always feel like a Muslim world has to be perfect devoid of conflict devoid of issues and problems or the like But when you read for example that Allah says in the
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Quran all you who believe obey Allah and his prophet and those who rule over you But in the
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event that you disagree with each other who's disagreeing It's the people and the rulers Then
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go back to Allah Go back to the Quran and the arbitrator between the two The arbiter between
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the two is the Quran and the Sunnah Implying that the people might be able to overrule the ruler or the ruler might make a mistake and therefore he needs to be corrected So Allah is saying that in
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a Muslim world or ideal Muslim society or the like mistakes are made that require the people
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to pressure the ruler to go back in terms of in in terms of the way that the the trajectory that
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he should be going When the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam and this is the
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hadith that really was a turning point for me in in rereading some of the politics of our history When the prophetam says about Hassan his grandson he says this grandson of mine is a and
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he will rec he will reconcile between two large groups of Muslims The two large groups he talks about and both of them The prophet sallallam in this says that al Hassan is a noble because
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he will reconcile between the two The prophetam did not make a judgment who was right or wrong between He celebrated the reconciliation between two large groups of Muslims and the bringing of
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that ummah back together A conflict between the Sahaba who were the best of people Islam
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was not compromised despite what had happened It continued to spread to Iraq continued to spread to the four corners of the globe The other thing that's worth noting is that the
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prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam in his lifetime achieved the greatest success of any
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creation But that success and I'm not belittling here is politically only the conquering of Mecca
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and Medina Mecca and Medina were considered cities by the Romans and the Persians that weren't worth
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conquering that weren't worth they weren't of strategic importance that were worth conquering
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But the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam in taking those cities went down as the greatest influence in history and described by my kohhat as the greatest influence in in the history of
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mankind Why Because the significance was not the history It was the impact that he left behind It
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was the attitude that he left behind It was the spirit amongst the Sahaba that he left behind that
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enabled them to deliver Islam and to carry it to all four corners of the world The reason why I say
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that is because when people talk about describe what what the ideal Muslim scenario looks like I think that the focus is often on the on the form and the shape as opposed to the attitude itself of
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what the ummah looks like When I said earlier that it is Islam that makes the Muslims great not the
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Muslims that make Islam great It's because when Islam became the impetus for science when people
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read that the seas have been divided between them is a barrier that don't cross The attitude of the
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Sahabah was not look what Allah has written The attitude of the Sahabah was I want to understand
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it I'm going to get on a boat and I'm going to go out and I'm going to find where and in that
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he makes a discovery When Allah says when he talks about the planets and the stars that they swim in
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the sky the Sahabi did not say mashallah what Allah says in the Quran The Sahabi went made a
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telescope looked up into the sky and wanted to understand why the orbits go wrong go around
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Which is why Aliruni then came up with this idea of astronomy and and the like which then inspired the Europeans to go and find When the when the Quran for example talks about that Allah created
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everything from water The Sahabi didn't say mashallah everything came from water The Sahabi
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said Allah said it I'm going to go and prove it And so he was suddenly incentivized to go and pursue When Islam became the incentive to propel people in their actions in life Muslims became
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great But when Islam became habitual rituals when it came became about asetism when it came about
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solely focusing on your spiritual relationship with Allah subhana wa ta'ala that's when Islam failed to lose its ability to innovate its ability to propel people to success And that's when you
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see the decline The reason why I mentioned the idea about the form and the substance is because we've had Muslim nations before that collapsed The reason they collapsed is because even though
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they were Muslim there was something lacking in it And that is an appreciation that Islam is the impetus that should drive you in your actions Look at what's happening in Palestine today When I said
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to you earlier that Blinken buckled and that the humanitarian pause after Blinken banned his state
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department from using the word ceasefire When Blinkin is now talking about humanitarian pause he buckled because the ordinary Muhammad Sara and all these other different Muslims decided
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to tweet on social media Those Muslims said to themselves "Ya Allah I don't have an army
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I don't have a foreign minister I don't have a big business I don't have lots of money but I
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have want I want to use the powers that are that you have given me in order to advance the cause of Islam and advance the cause of Palestine." They took one step Allah took 10 and amplified
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the voice and blinking is now bucketing Jal you sat here and you said "I want to do a thinking Muslim podcast and I want to bring speakers to promote the Palestinian cause." You brought the
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you brought other people and the like You said "Allah this is the power that I have Allah let's see how it goes." And in the end the views that you're seeing on your channel you took one step
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Allah took 10 Everybody who talks to me says that they watch the thinking Muslim podcast you took one step Allah took 10 Allah rewards the striving of an ummah When Allah says in the
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Quran when Allah says he does not change the state of a people until they change what is in
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themselves many people interpret that solely from an aesthetic perspective It's about the spirituality What Allah means in this is that an ummah that takes the step to strive I amplify that
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striving and I amplify the efforts on it because all outcomes belong to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala The reality is that when we're talking about the ideal Muslim order or the like I think the
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ideal Muslim order is less about its form and more about what this um is about what this um chooses
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to strive to believe in Everybody who's tweeted about Palestine made a difference Everybody who
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liked a tweet about Palestine made a difference Everybody who commented made a difference They forced those posts on the algorithm to go higher and higher which reach new areas where
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they had never reached before which made ordinary people who supported Israel turn around and say I can no longer support a genocide It is the ordinary Muslim who said yeah I am weeping and
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crying about what happened in Palestine and ya Allah I want to do something and I don't have the power and I don't like my rulers who aren't doing anything Ya Allah I'm going to do
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the basic of iman I'm going to comment on it on Twitter and I'm just going to pour my heart out Because the efforts because that person made the intention to say "Allah all power belongs
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to you I'm going to use the powers that I have." They forced 192 Congress people in
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Congress to vote against Israel Unprecedented They forced Biden to tell the Israelis that the
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content that they're sharing on social media means I can't keep supporting the Israelis You don't have months You only have weeks And if we continue we can get that ceasefire An
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ideal Muslim society is not one that is devoid of problems Allah subhana wa ta'ala says in where he
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says this used to stop me when it when it came to politics Allah says and forgive them their sins
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These are the angels when they make dua for those who say for those who seek Allah The angels say
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"Allah forgive them and wipe out their sins." For the ones for whom you wipe out their sins they are
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the ones who've got the victory Note the category the characteristic they have given of the Muslim
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who gets the ultimate victory It's not the perfect Muslim It's not the Muslim who doesn't buckle It's
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not the Muslim who doesn't despair It's not the Muslim who doesn't weep It's not the Muslim who is power who does who feels they have no power It's the Muslim who despite their buckling despite
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the fact they have no power despite the fact that they feel like they are making mistakes or despite
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their sins they when they buckle and they fall over they get back up They wipe themselves down and they say you know what I'm going to keep going Allah forgives those sins and so he gives them the
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greatest victory Islam the reality is this What made Islam great is what Islam inspired in the
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ummah And what ruined the Muslim states is when they forgot what had inspired them about Islam in the first place When Allah subhana wa tala and this is why I say the Quran should be read also as
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a political book Allah has no need of Muslims to deliver his message Allah sent Euniceam to
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his people to say to them to guide them to the dean to guide them to Allahh Eunas got so angry
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and frustrated with his people that he left them and he was swallowed by a whale Allah subhanaa tala in this story when unice comes out he finds all his people guided Allah had said to him yeah
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unice your honor was that I had sent you your honor was not that you would achieve the result
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all glory belongs to me all outcome belongs to me I've shown you that I can do it on my own you
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are the one who supposed to felt honored when you asked me in the beginning of of of of this of this podcast Sam mashallah people are talking about and the reason why I'm terrified of such statements
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is because of the story of unice Allah doesn't need me I'm not the one honoring Allah I'm not
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the one honoring Islam by mobilizing Islam honors me by encouraging me to mobilize Allah honors me
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by allowing me to be the tool and vehicle Once upon a time I used to sit on my couch watching
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the TV telling my wife "Do you think one day one day I will be able to have a platform where I can reach people and talk?" And she would say "Inshallah but you need to keep typing You need
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to keep moving." And it was hard to keep moving Today alhamdulillah I'm speaking and you see your reach now in the US or the like Allah is elevating that power I don't know where it will end up one
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day But the point here being is it's abundantly clear Allah rewards an ummah that strives Allah
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rewards an um that takes a step Allah you take one step You take one step Allah gives you 10
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When we look at for example successes and gauging successes remember Allah determines the success
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Allah determines the outcome The prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam did not see Islam in Argentina He did not see liberated He did not see the the battle of Kadisa He did not see the Islam
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enter Peugeot enter Roman He didn't see it But he didn't need to jal because he done what he had to
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do Allah used him as a vehicle to inspire Sahaba to go out Somebody made a very good point in
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terms of the Sahaba When you look at the graves in Medina most of Sahaba are buried outside Because for them what Islam meant Islam was not to sit in a room and focus on spirituality Islam was a
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religion of action where we go out where we tell ourselves because we're travelers in this dunya I see an injustice let me go for it and the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam this is what
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I mean look at Islam also from a political lens we read the hadith convey from even as a verse we
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read it as a spiritual verse read the Quran you feel better but part of the meaning is also the
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prophetam meant that when you speak it you advance the cause of Islam you force a debate you force
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a discussion people ask you who said Then they want to know about Islam Then it enters Rome Then it enters Bellin Paul Williams who you had over here is now listed as one of the most influential
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Muslims He's an English revert When you look at the way Islam is spreading and entering people's homes Allah is making it abundantly clear that the outcome belongs to him When you look at the
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prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam people are saying we have no power He says he who sees
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something that is wrong let him change it with his hand And if he cannot then with his tongue and if he cannot then let him condemn in his heart The prophet sallallaihi wasallam has already made
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allowances for a situation where we don't have the power to do the out to achieve the outcome
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that we want So the prophet has qualified it in that if you can't change it with your hand then condemn it with your tongue and raise awareness That's an elevated form of resistance as well
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But the reason why I mention all this is because when people ask what does a Muslim polity look
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like I look at Islamic history and I see that the best of creations the Sahabah they fought between
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themselves I see that for example the Abbassans and the Umayads they were side by side one in Andalucia and one in Baghdad Baghdad became a golden age for Islam at the same time that
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Cordoba became a golden age of Islam because what drove this ummah what drove the Muslims was the
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impetus of Islam And I think what we're seeing now with regards to Palestine is everybody feeling the despair but going back to Islam and realizing that Islam is not just about the dua although
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it's fundamentally important It's not just about the salat even though we should increase our salat because the prophetam in the battle of the trench used to increase his salat in order to pray for
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victory but they are realizing that this um should also be about action Yeah jal I'm seeing Muslims
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here in the UK now talk about a Muslim census to identify constituencies where they can punish the
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parties for their support for Israel and for their support for the genocide that's unfolding That's action That's Islamic That's what the Muslim should be about I'm seeing in the US Muslims
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who US Muslims who were terrified after 911 I'm seeing them come out and I'm sitting with them in the discussions where they are saying okay what where are the states where we can punish
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the parties for betraying and supporting the genocide They are mobilizing They are becoming a people of action When you say you have hope you have hope because you're a man of action
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and you're seeing other people take action Islam becomes great when the Muslim believes that Islam inspires them to embark on actions And to finish on this point the reason why I say read the Quran
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as a political book is that the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam conquered Mecca and Medina but he didn't see but that was enough for him Allah guaranteed the outcome Ibraimisam when
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he couldn't have a child he had a he had two children in old age But the angels promised him they said "Allah has promised your progeny would be like the stars." He died in a small
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village near Mecca never seeing that progeny never seeing Mecca become such a large city
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But that was enough for him because Allah dealt with the outcome He did what he had to do But who
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am they They spent hundreds of years with their people 900 years calling to
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their people and never succeeded in establishing that polity that you're talking about They never succeed in convincing their people Even though they
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tried to say that my dawa only makes them run away The point is Allah is making absolutely
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clear that the outcome belongs to him I don't know what shape or form a Muslim polity will look like I don't know what it should look like What I do know is Allah already knows
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what it looks like What I do know is that Allah is the best one to trust with the outcome of it
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And what I do know is it will never come about if this remains an um that doesn't take action What I hope and my response to your friend earlier who was a cynic is this
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Palestine has shown you has shown you that your actions however insignificant you feel they are
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were significant Everybody who posted on social media has made Blinken buckle has made Netanyahu
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buckle has made bin Salman mobilize the mash in the mosques to get them to come up with an
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Islamically legitimate argument in order to try to tell them you should be quiet don't talk about he's worried so he's coming after you We've seen Erdogan go from being neutral to saying
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we want to the Palestinians The um has power The reason it feels it doesn't have power is because
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it never took that first step that required Allah to take 10 And when you meet the people who take the first step they are extraordinary people There are people who liberated the Muslim
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world from colonization There are a people who established those independent states that in in their intention they were hoping those states would join together That's our responsibility to
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try to encourage that But the reason why I mention all of this is to go back to the point There are some who will say Sammy you duck the question in terms of describing the substance and form
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of the polity The reason why I'm ducking it is because that's not the essence of the question The essence of the question is this It is Islam that made the Muslims great not the Muslims that
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made Islam great It is Islam as long as we see Islam as something that governs our actions As
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long as when we go to work in the morning and we say alhamdulillah that we have the risk and we try to excel in our jobs so that maybe we get that promotion or maybe we're kicked out of the job
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but we learn the expertise to establish our own businesses our own Starbucks our own McDonald's our own corporate entities maybe one day when if we see Islam as a means of political action when
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we see Kama we're able to get together in order to punish him in the elections or to punish Biden in the elections that requires political thought that stems from an Islamic desire to take action
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in the hope that Allah will reward the action and that Allah will produce an outcome I always have a positive relationship with Allah I believe everything in his in his
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hands Allah is always in control of all affairs But people tend to forget it I think that when it
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comes to Palestine people often say they message they say I feel despair I feel heartbroken But this is not the time to feel despair or heartbroken We are in the middle of a war of
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narratives That's our battle at this moment in time And we are winning that war of narratives When Biden is changing his support for Israel or suggesting that he's going to limit support
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for Israel he's not doing it because he wants to He's doing it because we're forcing him And that leads me as a political analyst to plead with this um to plead Keep going Don't let people tell you
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you're powerless Don't let people tell you you're insignificant Don't let people tell you it doesn't matter For Allah subhana wa ta'ala says "He who does even an atom of good deeds Allah sees it."
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Allah sees an atom and he amplifies it So when he sees the tweet he amplifies it When he sees the Facebook post he amplifies it When he sees the Instagram he amplifies it This ordinary in
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ordinary circumstances people probably wouldn't watch the video Allah will amplify it Provided our intention is about trying to pursue that the the to finish to conclude on this point
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Even though I become notorious for that sentence To conclude on this point I think that a Muslim
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order or a Muslim polity or a Muslim success or a successful Muslim society is defined by a people
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who believe that their actions are governed by Islam Not in terms of its injunctions but that they are inspired by Islam That when they read the ay of the Quran it inspires them to
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excel in science One of the reasons Christianity left Europe was because people came to realize that Christianity was not aligning with scientific advancements that it was not encouraging intellect
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that it was hampering that The reason the Muslims thrived was because they found that the Quran was encouraging it that the Quran was commending it that it was even giving them clues as to where
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they should look in order to advance in terms of science or the like And I think I think that the
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greatest victory that is coming out of here is that the global public shift the the shift
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in public opinion is going to have sweeping consequences on how we talk about Palestine and Israel When a ceasefire eventually comes I promise you those journalists will not write
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that Israel won They will write that Israel lost They will write that Israel was unable to defeat
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this these ragtag group of Palestinians That Israel lost the moral compass that the West lost
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its moral authority And that will have sweeping ramifications for how new organizations emerge for the new thinking about how the political era should look for new thinking of how the
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global order should look like I think that this is a turning point for the generations This is a turning point in terms of our thinking This is a turning point in terms of how we perceive the
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um and that's why I think that to conclude remember that at the end of the day we are travelers in this dunya Allah will decide the outcome Allah will decide We may not see it
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in our lifetime Allah may not have written it but Allah has guaranteed it Allah has decided it The honor for us is whether we decide to be the vehicles or not And that's why my dua is not
Be a vehicle of Islam
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necessarily that Allah please deliver the outcome My dua is always Allah I know you've decided it I know you've decided on your own terms I know you already have a point You already have a time when
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you're going to bring the outcome But Allah I plead with you Let me be a vehicle for it I plead with you Give me the honor to be part of it I plead with you Let me be associated with it
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Because it is you who honors me not I who honor you It is Islam that honors me not me who honors Islam It is me who needs you You don't need me It's we who need you You don't need us And you've
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shown that throughout the Quran And I think that once you've reconciled that I think that
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what you feel inside you is a fire that starts burning And you set that despair aside and you
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start seeing the opportunities that are in front of you And inshallah today we have a limited power Tomorrow you don't know what kind of power we have inshallah And inshallah this umah appreciates
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what it's achieved appreciates what it's done appreciates the power it has and remembers that our that all glory belongs to Allah subhana wa tala The more we believe that and the more we take
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those steps towards Allah Allah will amplify our voices as he's doing today Alhamdulillah Zamiham today The world's most modern army backed by the superpower could not defeat a ragtag group
Metaphysical element of Islam
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of Palestinians because the team that has Allah is superior to the team with the F-16s Sammy
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I I I listen to you and uh Subhan Allah you sound extremely optimistic about the situation
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uh is your optimism base built on the political reality or is it built on a more metaphysical sort
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of understanding of of Allah subhana tala and sort of the greater uh long jurie of of of of Islamic
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victory because of course we we believe from an imam perspective that Allahh ultimately will reward the believers and will make the believers victorious Uh the reason why I asked this question
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is that in this last few weeks over the last few weeks I've come across a lot of Muslims who've
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given up the fight You know they they they were really strong at the very beginning and uh they
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did a lot of effort alhamdulillah for Palestine and for Gaza They've sort of given up and they see
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the constant scenes of tents on fire in in Gaza and they feel a sense of of deflation and weakness
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And um not only that by the way we've come across you know we've we've had a series of uh so-called
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you know left-wing fighters for Palestine who over the last few weeks maybe because of Syria
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as a backdrop they sort of given up on the Arabs You saw that from George Galloway you know we've given up on the Arabs Israel has won The greater Israel project is now supreme So it it it just
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seems to me that um there's a combination of of of people there who who have given up and they
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sense the same political reality you're sensing Who's right The first thing that I'll push back
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on I never separate the metaphysical from the politics ever Right Allah subhana is the one who says in the Quran that he gives victory to whom he wills and he inflicts defeat on whom he wills
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on the day of your numbers pleased you when you were superior in numbers and Allahhana ta made
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them almost defeated until they remembered that it's not our numbers that make us strong it is Allahh delivers the victory restore the intention and move forward and Allah gave him the victory I
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don't separate between the two bad was one because Allah gave them the strength to win in bad when
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300 faced 1 the politics was Muslims versus Quresh the metaphysical helped them to win as well I
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believe in that wholeheartedly I don't separate between the two and I believe me I truly believe there is a problem with the Muslim who separates between the two The second reason worth noting is
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I I I understand your question So let's look at it politically Yeah What was Israel's preferred
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situation in Gaza It is annexation settlements ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and kicking them
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all off into Egypt Have any one of these four been achieved What prevented any of those four
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from being achieved The Palestinians Yeah Did they have any material superior to the Israelis They
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did not Do they have sufficient power to prevent the four They clearly demonstrated that they have
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sufficient power to present the four Is there anything I've said there that is not political All of that is political That's the analysis What do they want to annex it West Bank Does Netanyah
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not dream day and night to annexing the West Bank Why can he not enex the West Bank What makes it difficult for him to annex the West Bank What is the power that prevents him from annexing the West
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Bank Is it because he's generous and says "I'll leave it for another day." Is it because he's kind and says I want to leave it for the Palestinians What prevents him from doing so It is a political
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calculation and assessment in which he cannot do so because there is a political obstacle
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in the path that is the Palestinians a mighty powerful people who it's not easy to defeat them
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because they don't take things lying down Al does Israeli is their dream to see Muslims praying al
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destroying ala and building the temple mount Give me a political explanation why they have not been able to do so thus far Is it because Netanyahu is generous and believes in pluralism and believes
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in diversity and believes that als Muslims we took their land they should be allowed to pray in Alba
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No it's not He has been trying to demolish J and demolish the areas around Ala in order to be able
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to undermine the temple mount in undermine Al Axa Why has he been unable to do so It's because there
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is an obstacle in his way What obstacle stand in his stands in his way Muhammadal It is the
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Muslims who visit Al Axar It is the Palestinians who stay in Ala It is the Palestinians who refuse
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to sell their homes to the UAE who are handing those homes subsequently to the Israelis It is
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the Palestinians who stand in their way There is power in those Palestinians that prevents
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Netanyahu from having his way Let's go more broader because I know people don't like the idea of ordinary power I was watching The Hobbit yesterday with my kids Me and my wife she said
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"We want to watch The Hobbit." Yes And subh there is a scene with uh who's that lady of the lake I
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can't remember her name She's talking to Gandalf and she says to Gandalf why the hobbit Why have you included somebody who is objectively powerless He's not a warrior not a wise man not why have you
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included him with Thoren son of Thra Why have you included him with these other dwarves who are used to power And Gandalf says I don't know but Suman believes that only great power can keep great
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power in check But I have found this is not the case I have found that it is the ordinary everyday
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acts of kindness of love ordinary acts of holding up what is right done by the ordinary people that
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keeps the darkness at bay It is the ordinary Palestinians not great power of Sardia that
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abandon the Palestinians not great power of UAE that abandoned the Palestinians It is the ordinary
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power of the Palestinians that keeps the great power of Netanyahu at bay that keeps the great power of the Israelis away from Al Aar Is there anything here that I've said that is politically
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inaccurate or is Netanyahu more generous than we assume Look more broadly forget Palestine itself and forgive me for pressing this answer on you just a little bit You look at Syria for
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example Netanyahu when did Assad ever attack the Israelis In fact Asset attacked Palestinians in
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Lebanon and Assad detained Palestinians in Syria And under Esset the Syrian army posed no threat to
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the Israelis nor did it make an attempt to attack the golden heights When did Israel attack Syria
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seriously and go to take military installations when was gone Because the guy we relied on to make
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sure the army was impotent is gone We don't trust a free Syria to use the army in a way that did We
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need to wipe out their military installations to make them impotent What Israel wanted in Syria was they wanted a northeastern Kurdish area They wanted a southern pro-Iran area and they wanted
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Damascus limited under UAE tutilage They wanted Damascus limit on UAE paralyzed and unable They
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wanted Syria split into three Now Syria looks like it could actually be united Now under Trump under Biden impossible Under Trump Trump doesn't give a damn about these Kurdish forces in the
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northeast these Marxist leftist Kurds who have been oppressing their own Kurdish Muslim Kurdish population It may well be Trump says I'm not interested in them Erdogan go in and you know and
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and and do your thing Israel when when it looks towards Syria it's not comfortable at all Muhammad
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bin Salman doesn't want to normalize with the Israelis because he likes the Israelis He's doing it because he wants something in return UAE is not normalizing with Israelis because it likes the
1:20:43
Israelis It wants something in No one likes the Israelis in the region itself And you look more
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broadly as well internationally Before you could never accuse Israel of apartheid regime You'd
1:20:53
probably be arrested for it You couldn't accuse Israel of genocide Metrop Metropolitan Police might knock on your home Now you can Metropol Police says it's protected from the river to the
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sea is protected The court case that Manchester student who they revoked her visa coming from Canada because she said that we celebrated you know that the Palestinians are still alive after
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October 7th And the judge said under international law they have the right to resistance It's free speech The court case ruled it's free speech Israelis are panicking And that's why I argue that
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in reality when you look at it you say is this optimism from a metaphysical perspective what is
1:21:25
Allah a fable is Allah a fairy tale does your not you does the question that you've probably other
1:21:31
people are asking are you saying that I believe in fairy tales and fables which is why I'm optimistic
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that somehow the power of Allah is a fairy tale and a fable as if we don't believe his miracles can happen today is that what we're saying who knew Syria that would fall in the manner that
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he did everybody Nobody believed that Assad was staying Erdogan was inviting him to Ankara to have
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negotiations The Saudis brought him to the Arab League UEE were investing They were lobbying US to lift sanctions and and the like And Russia was you know happy with him and the whole shebang But the
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point that I'm saying is this the Muslim who is getting tired and believes that politically things
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aren't in their favor is illiterate in history For wall and this has always been my gripe with
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those who say the um is weak The ummah has never been weak The caliphate fell Britain couldn't
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capitalize They were out of Egypt within 40 years The caliphate fell they couldn't capitalize The
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French were kicked out of Algeria in less than 40 years The caliphate fell the Italians couldn't capitalize They were kicked out of Libya If the be all and end all ended with a caliphate
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why did the ummah not die with the caliphate And this is the point that I keep making with people You may believe that the politics looks bleak but Netanyahu doesn't believe the politics looks bleak
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When you look at Harris losing because of when you see Donald Trump thanking Muslim Americans
1:22:51
when you see the world shifting away from the Israelis it is abundantly clear that politically speaking it's Israel that's on the back foot But the final point I'll make here is this The reason
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people feel deflated is because of the incessant videos and pictures of Palestinians being killed
1:23:07
Yes That truly break our hearts that truly when you see those pictures of those kids with their
1:23:12
heads blown off when you see the images of the cats eating corpses on the street because Palestinians can't bury the bodies when you see now there aren't even enough garbage bags anymore
1:23:21
to put the limbs in so people just leave them on the streets When you see that the Israelis aren't even allowing basic medicine to enter to go through into Palestine it is heartbreaking to
1:23:30
believe that the world has allowed this to happen It is true It is heartbreaking But it was equally
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heartbreaking for those who lived 132 years of occupation Algeria to see what the French did to
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them and have no power to drive the French out It was heartbreaking for Omar Mkhtar to see the end
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of his life him being hanged by Grazani of the Italians but still have the belief they could kick the Italians out And he knew that he would be hanged and knew he would be captured but he kept
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going anyway It must have been heartbreaking for him to wish he had more power to drive the Italians but could only summon the power that he had at that particular time It must have been
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heartbreaking for the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam to watch Abu Jendal and these others in Quraysh who couldn't make it to Medina be persecuted for their faith and not be able to
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do anything It must have been heartbreaking for the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam to say to Abu Jandal after the treaty of I can't take you back with me today Be patient Be patient
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They just signed 10 years and is furious is furious It must have been heartbreaking for Sai
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wasallam to say it must have been heartbreaking for him kicked out of bleeding from the like and
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saying to Allahh Allah are you angry with me that you allowed this to happen to me and if you're not angry with me then yeah Allah please accept my forgiveness I could not convince them
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and look at the attitude of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam he doesn't give up even though he believes he doesn't have the power what does he do yeah Muhammad jalan and this
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is the point is the s a fairy tale and a fable to you that somehow you believe it like lord of
1:25:00
the rings and the like or do you believe that it actually happened that in even in the absence of power he still moved sallallahu alaihi wasallam until the power became manifest and this is the
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point for those who feel deflated I don't think you're feeling deflated in the sense of nothing can be done because things are being done you are deflated at the pace that Allah has decreed
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this battle of justice and that's a dangerous sentiment that's a sentiment that ununice felt
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and therefore abandoned his people and Allah punished him he was swallowed by the whale
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and only released when he acknowledged that not that he had made a mistake that he acknowledged
1:25:37
that he had been from the from the wrongdoers What's the what's the dua that gets you and
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out truly when I abandoned the cause because I felt deflated when I abandoned it because things
1:25:54
weren't coming at the pace that I want When I abandoned it because the outcomes one outcomes that I liked When I abandoned it because things seemed to get worse I abandoned the cause Truly
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I was from the And when Allah releases Ununice and here is the thing that I fear the most for
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all of us When Ununice comes back does he go back and convince his people No He goes back and finds
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his people guided He finds the victory already delivered He was just impatient Allah had already
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decreed it and he decided to walk away from it So for those who feel deflated the Palestinian cause
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is not affected by you giving up on it The Palestinian cause of justice is not affected because you sit down Allah is sufficient for them Allah is going to give them victory But those who
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feel deflated wall the feeling when victory comes and you realize that you set out because
1:26:48
you couldn't see where victory comes from is worse than the feeling of heartbreak that you will feel
1:26:54
today And this is the point that I finish on It's not the Palestinians that need you It is not Allah
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that needs the Muslims It is not Islam that needs Muslims It's Muslims that need Islam It's Muslims
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that need Allah For Allah chooses his vehicle as he wishes Allah subhana wa ta can change tomorrow
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the vehicle if you choose to stop doing thinking Muslim jal and I love you know and I've seen mahise but if you stop doing this today there's somebody else who's going to do it as well I'm
1:27:22
not taking away from you I'm saying that it's not you that makes Islam great It's Islam that makes you great As long as you remember this Allah will always give you the moment you flip it Allah will
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humiliate you as he humiliated people before you And that's why I argue for those who are deflated don't stop now Don't stop now just because the battle is hard Don't stop now just because the
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struggle is hard Don't stop now just because you're feeling the heartbreak Get back up and keep moving because every story of justice is one of struggle And the reality is when people look
1:27:51
back on the story of Falstine they will record everybody who supported it And the reality is that even if you're not alive to see it you will see it eventually And that's why I always love the
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story And I promise this is the final story I know I pushed this this one a bit too long I I love the story of Dino in Bosnia when he was asked by these New Yorkers and and and they said to Dino "How
1:28:10
do you reconcile Serbians slaughtered your family They slaughtered your relatives and no justice was
1:28:16
delivered You were forced to live with them side by side again and America paralyzed your country into three presidencies." How do you reconcile it And you all just went back to daytoday as if
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nothing happened He said "Allah I imagine one day holding his cup." He goes "Oh I imagine one day in Jenna I'll ask Allah to show me the movie from start to finish I didn't think anything of it
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A New Yorker tells me afterwards "Sami did you see that See what Did you see the certainty with which he believes Allah's victory is going to come?" Did you see the certainty with which he's satisfied
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with Allah's victory even if he doesn't see it And do you see the certainty with which Allah subhana
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t's decree will always be manifest regardless of the power that is on the other side And that's why when Galloway came and said "I've given up on the Arabs." Galloway wasn't the one reinforcing the
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Arabs It was the cause of Palestine that gave him the honor of being somebody who could stand up for
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justice And that's why what I fear the most is not that Palestine would be destroyed Palestine will not be destroyed Allah has given the promise I believe in Allah You said metaphysical The
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question implied I know you didn't intend it this way The question implied I believe in a fable Palestine will be free I'm tired of this like metaphysical nonsense I'm not tired of Quran
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I'm not tired of Allah's promises I'm not tired of Allah's will I'm not tired of Allah's pace
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Yes maybe in my heart I think Allah sometimes I wish he could deliver it faster but I know your way is better Sometimes you love something and it's evil for you I'm aware Allah has its way
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of doing things I'm not tired of that promise What I'm scared of the most is Allah will use a tongue
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other than mine That Allah will use somebody other than me That is the greatest humiliation
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that can befall anybody And the reality is that many non-Muslims are entering Islam because of
1:29:51
Palestine What makes you deflated and makes them inspired What makes you heartbroken and therefore
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resign yourself to sit on your couch but make Shan King not only become Muslim but travel the whole world talking for Philstine What makes you so heartbroken and despair and say there's no point
1:30:07
and have this sense of despair that is not from a Muslim have that sense of heartbreak but makes Megan Rice not only become Muslim but dedicate a whole platform to Fallstine What do they see
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in the Palestinians that inspire them that you are unable to see Why do you see something that makes you deflated They see something that makes them embrace Allah subhana wa ta'ala and have the
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honor that Allah uses them to go and deliver the message of Palestine to those who didn't even care
1:30:32
about Palestine before Allah is always supreme When you ask about optimism and this is the I promise the sense of when you ask about optimism I'm not optimistic about what happens in the next
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year or the next 5 years or the next 10 years I'm aware like my my mother is Algerian my father is
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Tunisian I know about the struggles My relatives fought in the mountains against the French My
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relatives fought with the mujah of Muslims around the world They fought I know the stories I know
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the struggles that they went through I heard them I grew up with those stories None of them told me
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it was like buying candy from a shop None of them said it Sorry None of them said it was like buying candy on a shop Everybody said that it was a struggle It was hard And we never knew
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if we would win or not What I'm optimistic about is not what happens in the next five 10 years I'm optimistic Allah is always present I'm optimistic nothing is outside his plan I'm optimistic in
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predestination I'm optimistic that every tyrant will stand before Allah No one will escape justice
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I am optimistic that they will stand alone in front of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and everyone
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who was wronged will be dragged on their faces in front of the Palestinians Netanyahu will be
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dragged and everyone who committed genocide I am optimistic that Allah will bring them in
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front of Hind and Sid and say to Sidra tell me my wonderful creation What did this person do to
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you And Sindra she won't need to talk to Jal She doesn't need to talk to you who are deflated She
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doesn't need to talk to me for validation She will talk to Allah She will tell him "Yeah I was in and
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this is what they did to me They blew my legs off Allah my um didn't come rushing for me They were
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deflated." Allah my um got bored of the headlines They kept scrolling past Allah I knew I had only
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you Do you remember the kid who said "When I when I meet Allah I will tell him everything." The Syrian kid when I meet Allah they will tell Allah everything Allah won't be like me and you
1:32:39
were getting deflated Allah will deliver justice He will drag them to in chains Will say they will
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ask we will say to Jannam are you full And Janam will say "Well is there more
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I have space for more I have space for all the oppressors I have space for all the wrongdoers I'm not optimistic about what happens in the I'm optimistic that
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everything goes to an which is why Omar watch the movie watch it which is why Omar says to
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what is death to us if we win we win if we if we die we go back to Allah subhana wa
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ta'ala he talks about like it's a beautiful reunion with Allah subhana wa ta'ala and
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that's why I caution the Muslim never talk of the metaphysical like it's something beneath you Never
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talk of the metaphysical like it's something that's not a political consideration For the whole world believed Assad was going to stay Allah toppled him The whole world believed that France
1:33:44
was going to stay in Algeria Algerians kicked them out The whole world believed that the world would
1:33:50
stay colonized of an empire where the sun doesn't set and that empire doesn't exist anymore Why
1:33:56
doesn't exist Jal because they plan and Allah plans and Allah truly is the best of planners
Do what is right
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Sammy um it's a it's a running conversation now between me and you that uh these social media clips that we produce sometimes go viral Uh it's not because of me it's because of our sister AI
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who's managed to cut uh some really controversial let's say or amazing clips As you know um uh there
1:34:19
was that one clip that went out uh uh everywhere Non-Muslims picked it up Muslims picked it up big
1:34:26
accounts picked it up and I received uh just a great a deluge of messages uh the day after the
1:34:33
election that said that clip changed my mind Um I'm not sure where the question is here except
1:34:39
just to ask you I mean how do you feel about that Like in a sense you know you are an outsider in
1:34:46
in the United States Alhamdulillah you came on my program I'm I'm even more an outsider Uh but
1:34:51
in a in a small sense maybe or maybe in a big sense uh we managed to or at least you managed
1:34:56
to change the public discourse and place Gaza at the center like explain that that emotion there
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for me please I I'll I'll be brutally honest with you Yeah I don't take credit for any of it
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Primarily because I was in Houston Texas And this is where I realized I wasn't as fully connected
1:35:19
as I thought I was So I was in Houston Texas in October and a doctor asked Amar Shukari and said
1:35:29
"Uh can I have Sammy for dinner at my place?" I said "Sure it's better than staying in a hotel
1:35:34
by myself." I go in Jal They rolled out uh kid in a wheelchair 12 years old two legs blown off
1:35:45
his hand blown off and the other hand he has two fingers So the doctor says to me with a straight
1:35:52
face today is a day of celebration I think in my mind what's this lunatic talking about celebration
1:35:59
So he says to me this kid came two months ago from part of one of those limited people who come out from humanitarian aid Came for treatment He said "Sammy today he went to the doctors and he finally
1:36:10
got feeling back in his two fingers which is why he's celebrating He holds a smartphone here and he's happy that he can play with his two fingers." I don't know what to say to a boy like that but it
1:36:20
was the day after the Mahass video where he came and said you know the who's this Sami Ham guy took on and I looked at the boy and I and I was like what happened He's bit you know grumpy you know I
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can So his mother's telling the story that he had gone out he was starving I think for seven days
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So he'd gone out with his cousins and he found what looked like a tuna can He opened the tuna
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can and kaboom it blew up his legs It blew up his hand and killed some of the kids around him And I
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was my immediate reaction was this is too real for me I was in Fulsome Sacramento I've never
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seen this before I walked in a masid There's a kid 12 13 years old no left arm no left leg He walks
1:37:10
across the masjid banking on on one arm and and one leg like that Another kid come he's missing
1:37:16
an arm over here Towards the latter part there I was being introduced to more and more kids and
1:37:21
the people roll them out and say "Yeah like you know they want to sit with you They want to talk to you They saw some of your videos." And part of me was like "This is too this is too real for me
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The reason why I say this no one should ever forget who's at the center of the story The
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ones who are at the center of the story are the ones who are still being bombed today They're
1:37:42
still being slaughtered today They're still being starved today because some random group of people
1:37:49
from the West believe this to be some sort of home of theirs They're being massacred They're being
1:37:55
bombed into oblivion They're being ethnically cleansed Their homes are being demolished They are the center of this story The reason that Harris was punished was not because of some
1:38:05
political play because she did genocide Biden did genocide Biden slaughtered 240,000 Palestinians
1:38:14
Biden asserted the whole international order to make sure those kids could be killed Biden blew
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off the legs of that kid Then sent Clinton to Michigan to tell them that he deserves it
1:38:27
Biden went and told the ICC Karim Khan I'm going to investigate you for sexual abuse Why Because
1:38:33
you dared to go and issue an arrest warrant for the one who blew up the legs of that kid Jal
1:38:38
when you see it's different When you see it with your own eyes it's different That kid knows with
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a feeling of running He was running six months ago That kid knows the feeling of having two hands He can't feel it no more That kid is there sitting in Houston Texas wondering what on earth
1:38:53
am I doing here I was in with my family Why on earth did I get bombed in the first place They
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are the center of this story There's a horrible injustice taking place Biden was punished because
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he gave unthreated access to weapons for them Biden was punished because he said to hell with the Muslims who are angry about it Biden said "My America supports genocide." That's why he lost
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That's why he lost this election Why would you as a Muslim try to argue something different when the
1:39:20
whole world is saying he lost Baris says he lost because of Roana says he lost because of raza The
1:39:27
hell says was the main reason why he lost CNN says that why would you as a Muslim sit in your
1:39:33
WhatsApp groups and sit in your circles and try to argue was not a deciding factor Why do you not
1:39:40
believe what they believe Why do the non-Muslim believe in the power of Allah more than you do
1:39:45
Why do they believe in the power of da more than you do Why is it when Allah's power is manifest
1:39:50
and some justice is served You still want to deny it And that's why when you pose the question like
1:39:57
that I'm humiliated Jen all we can do is go and talk to people and tell them please When they
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said to me I was desperate to go home They said to me he said "What's wrong with you?" I said "To I have to beg my community to punish genocide I have to beg them I have to beg that kid."
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I still almost said to my lady as I dare you look and that kid with no legs and tell him there is
1:40:21
in rewarding his kill I dare you anybody who voted Harris I dare you look at that kid who had
1:40:28
his legs blown off for no reason Harris could not even meet with Palestinian families she would not
1:40:33
even go over look that kid in the eye when you see in Jal it's different it's easy when we're
1:40:39
here there's no one here from Palestine here it's it's when you see it's different and look him in
1:40:45
eye and tell him there is hikma because my comfort might be compromised if I uphold justice for you
1:40:52
It was different Jalen I came home I said "What kind of life is this?" We're sitting here with two
1:40:58
microphones trying to come up with political analysis and scenarios to convince people to
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do what Jal To move To convince them to move We have to convince them to move
1:41:13
That's what the state is We have to convince them to move because if we do not they will not That's
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the state So when you say sur it's not smy It's the fact that 12 months in It took me 12 months to
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find some sort of chain of words that could move people It took me 12 months to do so I couldn't
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do it before I didn't have the eloquence to do it before And I don't know how to stop this genocide
1:41:39
I'm trained to poke and broad Let's try and punish the Democrats Let's try and punish Harris Let's
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see what we do with this battle with Trump Let's see what happens in Canada Let's see what happens in Australia Just raise your voice say "What does it look like What does the world look like What I
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don't know I don't know But you have to move and do something Don't sit and do nothing." That kid
1:42:02
didn't deserve it Did it deserve to have his legs blown up what I saw him I saw my kid Selma I saw
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my kids slay man Can you imagine if your kid two years old looking for food starving and opens and
1:42:17
kapoo for why Why And then you look in the US and you look in the world and they're hesitant to do
1:42:23
something for you Why It it's such a cruel world It's such an ugly world But it's not ugly because
1:42:30
of the evil It is ugly because the people who should be moving are still debating whether they
1:42:35
should move And that's why I'm not here to berate my community I'm here because you touch the nerve
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It's not it's not the clips It's not the talking It's not it's not trying to mobilize It's it's
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move and do something for Allah For every second you are quiet for every time you don't move evil
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thrives This is a battle of good versus evil This is about the heart of mankind This is the battle
1:43:00
you are fighting And the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam was sent as a mercy to mankind And we will be that mercy We will be that mercy to America I believe in their hearts I believe
1:43:08
their hearts can be shifted I believe the hearts in the UK can be shifted I believe the hearts in Canada can be shifted I believe in Australia can be shifted I believe why Because Allah is the one
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who flips the hearts Allah is the one who is all powerful Allah is the one who is in control Allah
1:43:23
is the one who decides the fate and Allah will decide our fate too Allah give us the opportunity to do good Let's take it otherwise he might take it away from us and give it to somebody else and
1:43:33
condemn us to humiliation Let's just move and do something just for the sake of justice And this is why and I finish on this point My dad one day called me and he rebuked me that he said to
1:43:41
me "Apologies can I have a tissue please?" Let's break for a tissue Yeah That's the spirit of the heart that never dies That's the spirit that keeps the um alive That's the spirit that allows the
The Muslim spirit
1:43:51
um to achieve glory So for me I don't measure the hundred years by outcome I measure it by the
1:43:57
spirit of the um is this um going to maintain this spirit of moving of mobilizing of getting
1:44:03
back up after every mistake and changing or is it an um that's going to just wait for something to happen because Allah subhana wa tala is the one in charge of the outcome and I believe I don't
1:44:12
know what will happen in I don't know what would happen in the next hundred years but I am proud of an ummah that moved I'm proud of an um that changed the narrative on I'm proud of an um that
1:44:20
has Biden worrying about his election chances I'm proud of an um that has made Kama worrying about his chances as I'm proud of an um that keeps talking even though they are heartbroken I'm proud
1:44:29
of an um that keeps mobilizing even though their heart might be filled with despair I'm proud of an um that is beginning to see its power I'm proud of an um that Netanyahu is spending millions on
1:44:38
to try to silence I'm proud of an um that made blinking changes travel plans to go to leaders in order to try I'm proud of an ummah in Pakistan where despite the machinations of an establishment
1:44:48
in order to try to maintain its power and to rig elections still they managed to deliver independent candidates and break the rigging of the establishment and send the whole Pakistan
1:44:56
in turmoil I'm proud that the ummah is still alive Never talk about the um like it's dead
1:45:01
Don't talk about the um like it's weak We're going through a turbulent process We're going through a struggle but Allah subhanaa tala is in control of everything Our choice or our decision is not
1:45:10
about what the outcome should be Our decision is about what powers do we have and how can we use those powers However minuscule they might be for wall the first of a rain is always a droplet
1:45:21
That drop is what leads to that rain that gives life to the land after it's appeared arid and have nothing on it It's that first drop of rain that we're looking for And as long as we keep
1:45:30
moving in my opinion there's always something to be optimistic for in this um optimistic in Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala not necessarily in the outcome Optimistic that Allah is in control Acknowledging
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Allah is in control And acknowledging that at the end of the day the ultimate goal is that when our soul leaves our body we have something with which to look at the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam
1:45:49
say Allah I left the duny in a dire state but I was not one of those people who sat at home and
1:45:55
did nothing And certainly I was not one of those people who used to look at Jalal mobilizing or thinking Muslim and tell him what's the point of these efforts that you're doing I was not one of
1:46:03
those roo I was one of those who kept moving mobilizing and telling people go go They told me the whole world is against you and the system is against you But I told them if the whole system
1:46:12
is against me Allah is sufficient for me and I mobilize against that and Allah here I am with
1:46:17
the greatest victory inferos sitting next to you Alhamdulillah with the Sahabah as my neighbors
1:46:24
Alhamdulillah with Muhammad inshallah next to you And this is the greatest victory And that's
1:46:30
why the Muslim is always an optimist This is where I finish That's why the Muslim is always optimist because even in the darkest moments the Muslim believes change is always possible because
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change is in the hands of Allahhana wa ta'ala Don't ask yourself what the outcome should be Ask yourself what you can do to be the vehicle to achieve that outcome And you will find that
1:46:46
the opportunity you can't see is just around the corner because Allah monopolized the outcome for himself All he asks from us is move and Allah will deliver the outcome May the um keep moving
1:46:58
Thank you very much for your time If we should be so certain about Jenna and Allahh's mercy if
Politician in Jannah?
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Allah subhanaa tala gives me mercy and forgives me and um allows me to enter Jenna and I come to see
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you Sami uh inshallah tala will you be discussing will you be in a meeting with all of the future
1:47:17
political analysts or you give up that's for because of ja and you'll be I don't know a farmer
1:47:22
or or someone just relaxing like where is politics so ingrained within you that even In Jenna you'll
1:47:29
meet the future politicians and political analysts between now and the past Um and uh and just have
1:47:37
constant conversations with them Who knows maybe you'll have a thinking Muslim podcast there as well you know narrating everything that happened afterwards But you know I I think I have when I
1:47:47
was growing up I only ever imagined jahannam and how to avoid it Yeah But I think the more that I
1:47:53
see people move with new initiatives the more I see ordinary people striving to make an impact
1:48:00
the more I saw people when you tell them that you know at least raise the voice on the algorithm and you see in his eyes or her eyes they believe they don't have the power they want but the suddenly
1:48:11
in their eyes they look say wait so this is power like I I can make a difference if I do this and
1:48:16
you see the rush with which they do it I've my faith in humanity is genuinely restored I truly
1:48:23
believe that people want to do good things and that's why I think when when you invite me to thinking Muslim and the like and I'm grateful for the opportunity I see as you asked you know how do
1:48:32
you see you know would you be discussing politics I think it's more here are avenues that I think
1:48:37
work What avenues do you think work Here's how I see the world Show me how you see it and let's see
1:48:44
where it merges Because it's like for example that website wordsofjustice.org all where he set up you
1:48:50
know that AI database that knows the history of Falstine and then you know it it generates the tweets for you in case you're not adequate to do so I knew that you know perhaps we should educate
1:49:01
people to respond I didn't know you could use AI You know I had an idea I had one perception of it
1:49:07
He had another and he produced something We all build off the backs of each other those abandoned
1:49:13
Harris those you know at Unity Lab those that are like thinking Muslim What I found what restored
1:49:19
my faith was you know you were mentioning you know semi by the [ __ ] It wasn't me It was we all work
1:49:24
together We all move together It was wonderful to see it It was wonderful to go from community
1:49:29
to community and have people say "We want to do something Here's what the powers that we have Is
1:49:34
this sufficient We want to move forward." And it was wonderful to see the um move almost as
1:49:39
one body It was wonderful to see them move with a unity of purpose and that's why I think saved us
1:49:46
I think the fact that made such an impact on the US elections shows when the community moves they
1:49:51
can have an impact and that's why I made the point earlier when I said that the question is not what happens next The question is now that we realize in 11 months you can move and have this sort of
1:50:00
impact Imagine what impact you can have in 5 years if you move with the same tenacity and the same
1:50:06
vigor Don't go home now Don't sit at home now Just keep moving keep pushing those ideas The community
1:50:13
is moving and the mentality is shifting and the perspective is changing And maybe when historians
1:50:18
write they will write this was the turning point because the um finally woke up It is abundantly
Be optimistic
1:50:23
clear that Allah is preserving his religion and that it is growing day by day When Allah
1:50:30
says they enter Islam in waves in this world today in our current people are entering Islam in waves
1:50:39
And that's why I think that those who say that we're in decline or we're not or they don't see the trajectory that it's going there are people who cannot see Allah's favor And that's why I
1:50:47
think that the reality is this It's not about asking how can I revive Islam It's that Allah has preserved it Give me the honor of of being the tool through which Islam is preserved and
1:50:56
encouraged And I will say this don't discredit small victories When kilich du in in Turkey
1:51:03
today is saying the hijab he's the head of the CHP which banned the hijab which repressed the Muslims
1:51:09
which put the scholars in prison which asked his military to do a coup on every prime minister who
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attempted to Islamize Turkey When Kilich Darlu that same party is now saying things that Ataturk
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would turn in his grave if he heard when he says "Turkish Muslim woman I promise you vote for
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me I swear I will never ban hijab again And the proof I will put it in the constitution so no one can touch it That shows how far Turkey which we thought was a lost cause has developed And I think
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that's why sometimes I think it's a lot about perspective And the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam said be optimistic about something and you will find it Be optimistic about Allah and
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you will find it The prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam one of the reasons that I always say whenever students ask and they say what is the best book to read on politics I tell them read the
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s not from the religious lens but from a political lens The prophet only conquered Mecca and Medina
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before he died Mecca and Medina and he went down as the greatest politician in history by the words
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of my historian The prophet Muhammad wasallam did not measure success based on these things that we
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tend to measure success The prophet wasallam measured success in that the dean would never disappear again And that's why I think that you see these things are changing now People say for
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example there is a now in Stanford Bridge The Muslim says yeah what does an aan in Stanford bridge Stanford bridge benefit me Then read the comments of non-Muslims guys then in the middle of
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London in Stanford Bridge What's going on They see what it means Even if we Muslims don't appreciate
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it in France when suddenly they're having a debate and they're saying guys the Muslim Paul Pogba is
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the French child's hero The Muslim in Golocante is the French child's hero The Muslim Zinedine
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Zidan is the French child's hero Karim Benzema is the French Charles hero guys if we're not careful
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our French generation will the new generation will forget what it means to be French and they'll be like those Africans when they realize the impact Islam is having and the Muslim instead turns
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around and says this means nothing for me this is a lack of appreciation of how Allah makes his religion supreme and that's why I think that the reality is this my grandfather was a mujahed who
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fought against the French and he lived to see he was in the mountains with his brothers one brother was killed he had aunties who had breasts chopped off and tortured he horseshoe marks everything
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but I remember one thing that he said after he finished he I said to him he wasn't happy with the way Algeria was after independence corruption and the like but he said listen my generation was
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about securing liber liberation your generation is to build from there I don't want you to go backwards and do what I did I did my job I did my life and Allah will reward me based on it
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your role is to do the next stage in other words people always imagine that I should do something where at the end of my life I can stand on the podium and say I did it without realizing that the
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reason Allah made and this probably I'm trying to find a nice way to to put it The reason why Allah made sacrifice something so is because Allah says if you're ready to give something up for
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me I will give you the benefit in the hereafter and the rest of the um will benefit for it later on And that's why the question is where do you fit within this irresistible wave of history in
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which Islam is still continuing and that's why I tell you an interesting story I was in Azaba recently and um I asked to go see the Zarustrian temple I was fascinated by the idea of a fire that
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never dies and I couldn't understand how people for thousands of years they worship fire and this is no disrespect to the Russians and all the like but they said an interesting story where an
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American came to Aabaijan and saw the fire and he saw people worshiping it but his reaction was not
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this fire is ever burning his reaction was there's oil under this fire the point here being is how he
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he viewed it the different perspectives yes and I think with Muslims sometimes we said that the
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civilization is not destroyed when it's destroyed physically It's destroyed when it's destroyed psychologically Allah says if you were to count the blessings of Allah you'd never finish counting
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them And I think the reason Allah says that in the Quran is so you may always remember that he's ever present In other words that when you see something that looks like despair you're able to count and
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say "Wait a minute Allah is here." And it's the same with politics because people think that this
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situation has always been there But think about it guys Ali failed 2010 that's only 10 years ago
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before then we had constant changes in government movements as well the Muslim Brotherhood whatever you might think of them things are moving forward the question the Muslim should ask is not why are
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we in such a state but that given things are moving how can I amplify that wave and that's why I think that the to answer go back to your question even though I diverge here there left
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right everywhere but the point here being going back to your question terms of what Muslims can do in terms of what's happening in Medina do what you can if you can speak Martin Luther King has a
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lovely saying in which he said uh if you can run run if you can't run walk if you can't walk crawl
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but by god keep moving the point here being is guys an Instagram post makes a huge difference
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if it didn't beny gans wouldn't have asked to take prior passing Facebook post Twitter post engaging with your charity going to your mosque on dressing up in a clothes that makes you look
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Muslims going together in groups for prayer for salah all these things make a huge difference because you might think that it's antagonistic but somebody looking from far says I want to be part
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of this and that's what I think and that's why I think one of the the greatest signs of this is the greatest inspirations for me in politics Leopold Wise who became Muhammad Assad the book the road
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to Mecca aliad begovich ethnically European he wrote inescapable questions transformed my perspective on diplomacy Martin Lings a rever who wrote in my opinion the greatest compilation
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of the s it's what I used to go back to when I want to analyze politics I want to see what they do because he brings so many different sources Allah has made his religion great through the
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very people that right now you're looking at them they may be non-Muslim but tomorrow they may be the ones who inspire the revolution and that's why personally I'm always an optimist with this
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yes bin man is implementing deislamization but I go back to the point and I finish on this point 90 years of secularization in Tunisia they voted Islamist parties in free fair elections 90 years
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of secularization in Turkey they brought Erdogan to power whatever problems you might have but you cannot deny the changes that have taken place in Turkey I remember Turkey before Erdogan and
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believe me it is so different when a secular Turkish academic is saying Istanbul now looks
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like Anatolia what he means is there are too many hijabies what he means is Muslim women have found a haven in Istanbul or what was once called Islam for example these changes I don't think we should
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underregate them we should be part of them we should be pushing them and I think bin Salman the reality is Allah is ever present I don't think he'll succeed in it and I think that even
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if there are chains on this um it still breathes and I think those chains are weakening on a very
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positive note thank Thank you very much Thank you very much Thanks for having me Thank you Wonderful
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